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Hi All,

I'm just started to learn Xinyi Quan.
The purpose of this thread is to talk about xinyi.
Welcome all Xinyi practicioners come in and share your experience and give some insight. Maybe if there big group we can meet up and make a gathering right

For me. my background was in TKD and some chinese kungfu.
But already stop for few years. Now I start from scratch again and intend to master this art and practice it for my whole life i start to know about this art when i read one book 逝去的武林 wrote by 李仲轩

So now i start practising San ti shi... Personally i consider myself a total newbie again. At this stage i'm trying to ensure my posture is correct and build up my strength and endurance for san ti shi.

Currently the feeling is legs are really tired. but i can felt very refreshing after my san ti shi with legs trembling . So at this stage i'm trying to ensure my posture and the distribution of my weight is correct.

Appreciate all ur comments and experience on this

You mean you learn Xing Yi Chuan (12 animal), not Xin Yi as in Xin Yi Liu He Chuan (10 animal).

I am only saying that as you mentioned, san ti shi (3 body posture), Xin Yi does not have this, they have ji bu zhuang (chicken posture), which is in my opinion where, san ti shi came from.

Ji Bu requirements are body twisted 90 degrees either side, both feet pointing straight ahead, etc. Physically it is a lot harder as you also have to struggle with balance in relation to the feet.

I will try and get some of my xing yi san ti shi requirements for you to have a look at, though I need to really use pictures to explain what I mean.

JB.

Xingyi - 形意 - 三体式, 五行拳, 十二形拳
Xinyi - 心意 - many written 戴氏心意 as the mother of xingyi.


JB, when will you site be ready? I'm waiting for it...

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一天不练手脚慢，两天不练丢一半，三天不练门外汉，四天不练瞪眼看。

ya, i mentioned is 形意拳.
As I'm just started to learn last tuesday, so still pratising 三体式. My target is to able to train 三体式 each side 30min. Currently i'm only stand for 5 min each side. I think today i'll going to stand for 15 min then gradually increase to 30min each side

And as for posture I'll try to ensure i'm on the right posture. Been reading a few article about 三体式 posture. a bit confused on the butt. when it say 向内，wondering is move the butt up and infront or putting down back deep.

Maybe next week will ask my sifu then If you all have any xingyi quan experience, do share as well.

My teacher, Yan Long Chang's site is just in the very beginning stages now, we have secured the name, I am just waiting for my friend, another one of my teachers top students to get the framework started. I don't know hardly anything about that stuff mate, I will just be my shiye's, western representative, screening emails and arranging prospective students, etc.

I am thinking of putting out my own website in the near future, but it will be on all Xin Yi branches that I have studied, and other which I don't, I have a lot of precious photo's and I am sure the masters I met in China, would be more than happy to support me, with articles, etc.

JB.

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一天不练手脚慢，两天不练丢一半，三天不练门外汉，四天不练瞪眼看。

What did I miss, that guy complaining that no one was listening to him?

The testes produce too much testosterone that causes high ego. When 2 ego Male hit on a debate, no one can lose. So in order to win, throw in some sour grape. To me it is normal, else we are not human.

Let's get back to 形意拳...

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Daniel Kaw
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一天不练手脚慢，两天不练丢一半，三天不练门外汉，四天不练瞪眼看。

You removed the postings just bcos you do not like it. There is no point to debate bcos the whole wushu is no different from Laksa selling...all claimed for "zhen zhong"

You wanna talk 形意拳?...

You dun even know what is "暗勁" in 內家拳, what is there to talk about? Dun make ppl laugh lar..

Lung_Xin_Guo_Hen2 - enjoy selling Laksa

Maybe you should explain your opinion in english as I am after all a foreigner training in the arts, then I can see where you are coming from?

My knowledge of chinese characters is very limited.

I hold my view you are entitled to yours, next time I am coming to Sing, I let you know and we can hook up, train or go to KTV together, no stress bro.

JB.

Hi the reason of this thread is to share personal experience in training of Xinyi, Humbly i think we should only talk about our experience from the training or fight and not ｊｕｓｔ theory．

Hi Xiang qi,
I read about 明勁，暗勁 and 化勁 but personally i don't even at any of this stage. So need more practice before can really FELT　ｗｈａｔ　ｉｔ　ｗａｓ　ａｌｌ　ａｂｏｕｔ．　ｈｏｐｅ　ｏｎｅ　ｄａｙ　ｉ　ｃａｎ　ｒｅａｃｈ the　ｆｉｒｓｔ　ｌｅｖｅｌ　ｓｏｏｎ．

Have you reach 暗勁 level? If so I'm very interested to felt how it is.
if u don't mind we can have a friendly spar and maybe u can display this skill to me. i'm really disappoint seeing all those trained in martial art fight like a street fighter. Even myself is still far from a real martial artist. Still long way to go.

I found 三体式 is really a profound knowledge and can 提高功力. Yesterday I tried 15 min each side, but i think my posture get sway around. Looks like not even 10% i got it correct. Still have a lot more to correct and practice.

just an old man dropped by to share expereiences...

my experiences with xingyi quan is limited, honestly i started out xingyi as a "appreciation" of wushu, nothing fundamentals. Now after few years of wushu practise, i only practise the santi. Only when i m tired of santi, then practise 5 element (sometimes 1 element is good enuf). As for the animal elements which was stated in forum, it didn't really matter much to me.

Each time i practise santi, i m still trying the "breathing" method, making sure the breath is circulated correctly and in the right place. To me, breath is most important for me.

Hi jkklim,

tq for sharing your experience.
So normally how long u stand for santi? A question for u too
Been reading a few article about 三体式 posture. a bit confused on the butt. when it say 向内，wondering is move the butt up and infront or putting down back deep.

So from wat you say, looks like u reach 气沉丹田 ？Do share your experience and how u felt on this too

Tq so much for sharing ur experience

In Xing Yi Chuan in relation to the buttocks, they should be in line with the peak of the calf muscle. The pelvic basin should be filled and the tailbone tucked under to the maximum, then the hui yin, will naturally be lifted.

Relax the chest, round the shoulders (which will compress the chest) and relax the dan tian area.

Make sure the elbows are hugging the ribs, elbow tips pointing down.

The front index finger the nose and your front toe should all be in one plane, etc.

More to come...

Jay_Bee

guys

sorry i m unable to read chinese text ..all i see was in forum text =====

wa lau. uncle, like long time no see u liao leh....

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hello lioncity

very b z lately. Went short vacation with wife to cambodia, came back, cough non-stop ...everyone falls sick, just recovered. Guess must practise more wushu to keep health from failing.

Hello vivasg

Think i m able to read chinese text from my pc, rather from others.

The forum members here are good as they can give good advice. i can understand when u are in stationary santi and the moment u starts moving, the santi "collapse" and to maintain structure each time is difficult. 气沉丹田 must keep on practising and "feel" it. In fact every child knows how to 气沉丹田, only we adults don't know

Look around children especally in toys shopping center, if the parents refuse to buy toys for them, children will squat down and cry, and parents will start to move their children by pulling their children hands. U will be suprised to realised that parents sometimes unable to move the children by pulling. Now that is when children starts to exhibit 气沉丹田 naturally.

I wld suggest that u try basic santi + 气沉丹田 + 5 elements. Practising 5 elements are good enuf liao. Only when u are bored, then go for animal elements.

How do you know he doesn't know? And you know? Putting people down without being able to refer to his points or statements, just shows how much knowledge you have and how cultivated you are. Talking about dignity, honour and humbleness.........

In anycase, LXGH didnt say that his style is the only correct style. In fact he pointed out that there are different styles (Che', Song, Shang, Sun, Hebei, Jiang Rong Qiao) and that each of them has their own methods of developing power, speed, etc, and that they are not the same at all.

There is nothing wrong to claim that what one learn is orthodox. And as LXGH has put it, lineage does not equal skill, but without a good lineage and the right teaching, you will get nowhere.

Talking about laksa, just because eveyone is claiming they are selling katong laksa doesnt mean that the actual katong laksa sellers cannot say that they are selling katong laksa. Or you think the actual katong laksa seller should say that they are selling other types of laksa?

If you have seen how Ah-gao delt with other members previously, you would know that he has been soooo kind to you.

Last but not least, I find this site informative, but NOT from your posts.

Ermm Bro, the person that XiangQi was referring that does not know about "暗勁" is me, not JB.

It was a discussion on a thread >> discussion on One Inch Punch where I had mentioned I know nuts about "Force" in thread >> http://sgwutan.com/index.php?name=PNphp ... =9363#9363

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一天不练手脚慢，两天不练丢一半，三天不练门外汉，四天不练瞪眼看。